Air Date

March 18, 2025

Featured Guest

Admiral James Stavridis (Ret.)
Vice Chair, Global Affairs and Managing Director, The Carlyle Group

Moderator

Jay Sapsford
Senior Vice President, Global Risk Analysis, U.S. Chamber of Commerce,

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During this episode of The Call, U.S. Navy Admiral James Stavridis (Ret.), former NATO Supreme Allied Commander, argues Europe is already preparing for a post-NATO era, with significant consequences for both U.S. influence and its defense industry. 

Across European capitals, plans are being made to dramatically increase defense spending to levels that match the U.S. As Washington shows more sympathy for Moscow, some are proposing expanded European ties with Beijing. Admiral Stavridis provides a candid assessment of the geopolitical stakes.

Key Takeaways Admiral Stavridis Shared

  • Europe’s Defense Transformation: With uncertainty over U.S. commitment, European nations are ramping up military spending, expanding nuclear capabilities, cyber warfare, and intelligence—laying the groundwork for an independent security structure.
  • A Fracturing Transatlantic Alliance: If NATO weakens, Europe may strategically distance itself from the U.S. and pivot toward new alliances, including China. As Admiral Stavridis warns, “We’re not the only game in town.”
  • The U.S. Navy & Global Trade Security: The U.S. has long guaranteed safe global trade routes, but can it afford to do so alone? Admiral Stavridis argues that America must harness its allies’ naval power or risk losing control of the high seas.

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